Interview with Lou Schneider
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Title
Interview with Lou Schneider
Date
October 26, 2020
November 18, 2020
November 18, 2020
Is Part Of
Saratoga Senior Memory Project
Description
An 89-year-old Koren war vet from Brooklyn describes his life history. From his time in Brooklyn as a kid. His experience as a medical core in Korea, and then finally his life after with his family as a chemical engineer. This interview was conducted as part of the Saratoga Springs Senior Center project “Preserving Our Past”.
Language
English (en)
Creator
Cooper Murphy
Contributor
Cooper Murphy
Rights
Skidmore College
Format
Audio recording
Type
Oral History
Oral History Item Type Metadata
Interviewer
Cooper Murphy, Skidmore Senior Memory Project
Interviewee
Lou Schneider
Location
Skidmore College Saratoga Springs, NY, 12866 and Saratoga Senior Center 5 Williams St, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 (Zoom)
Transcription
First Transcription of Lou Schneider
CM: Today is 10/26/2020 time is 12:55 pm I am the interviewer CM would you like to introduce yourself.
Lou Schneider: My name is Lou Schneider, I am 89 born 4/17/1931. What else can I say?
CM: That’s about it. Okay so are you okay with this information being stored or shared through the public domain and in Skidmore Saratoga memorial project.
LS: No problem.
CM: Okay, and let's get started shall we. Okay, first question is, where did you live as a kid.
LS: Wander what I’m sorry louder.
CM: Where did you live as a kid.
LS: Brooklyn, New York. That's where I was born.
CM: And what was your family like
LS: Well family. I'm the first generation in the United States. My father came from Lithuania, my mother from Poland.
CM: Did you have any siblings.
LS: I have a younger sister three years younger than me.
CM: Did you guys go to the same school
LS: Yes, Lafayette high school in Brooklyn New York
CM: And how're classes for that.
LS: Alone one what. I'm sorry.
CM: Sorry, did you have of what we're teachers like back then.
LS: I still didn't catch the question, I'm sorry.
CM: It's perfectly fine. What were teachers like back at your middle school?
LS: What was it like
CM: Yeah.
LS: Well, I'm being born and raised in Brooklyn, New York. Is uh my stomping ground was Coney Island spent a lot of time, they're. Doing a lot of things. As I was growing up at the age of eight. We used to play had some friends. We used to play chess Pinochle and hearts.
CM: And did any of those become hobbies that you did in the future.
LS: Hobbies?
CM: Hobbies. Yeah. What were your hobbies?
LS: Yeah, the only the only hobby. I really had was reading. I enjoy, you know, books, a lot of reading. And just living the good life in Brooklyn, New York, and stomping ground in Coney Island.
CM: Sounds fun. Did you have a specific genre that you really liked…Or a topic?
LS: Or what?
CM: Book. Did you have a topic of a book that you really liked to read about
LS: No, I read on. Anything I can get my hands on. But I gravitated more towards mysteries than anything else.
CM: Cool. Did you have a favorite type of music as a kid?
LS: Did I have a what
CM: Did you have a favorite type of music like a type of band or
LS: Type of anything. No, really. Enjoyed own music. Yeah. Gravitated a little towards jazz, but that's about it.
CM: Did you have a favorite holiday?
LS: Favorite what
CM: Holiday
LS: Any day. I didn't have to go to school with was a holiday to me.
CM: That's fair enough.
LS: I was not. I was not one of the best students available at the time as growing up as I got older, I want. I want to see college. I got a degree in chemical engineering. So just settle down a bit.
CM: Uh, did you have any pets as a kid?
LS: Did you ask your question.
CM: Yeah, sorry, it looks like our connections, a bit iffy. But, um, Yes. I said, did you have any pets as a kid.
LS: No. No, I'll no pets went up by. Those in Brooklyn and a three bed in a three-bedroom apartment. She used to sleep in the bedroom with my folks. I used to sleep in a roll away cot in the living room. Which made it interesting.
CM: So you mentioned how you went to community college and we've talked about your. Elementary School. But do you know, do you remember where you went to high school.
LS: Yes, Lafayette High School in Brooklyn New York, and I admit though I really weren’t a good student never took any interest in it until I grew up.
CM: And I know that you're a veteran. Can you tell me which war he fought in if not wars?
LS: Korea I was very fortunate during the Korean War. I was stationed in Washington, DC. I work for the Army prosthetics research lab we did research on different types of materials artificial limbs. And it was interesting. So the work with amputees almost all my life at the time.
CM: Uh, did you ever see any combat. During your time there?
LS: None at all, no.
CM: So you have worked with amputees and just make sure I'm getting this right. And you developed different materials for prosthetics and stuff like this.
LS: Right.
CM: This might be a very specific question, but did you ever have a specific type of, I guess, limb that you were more of an expert about making a prosthetic about?
LS: No, not really.
CM: Just all over everywhere? Nice.
LS: Yeah.
CM: How long did you serve for
LS: Well, actually I was in for two years spent a year and a half and Walter Reed as I send a prosthetic sweet. I was…
CM: I'm sorry you cut out on my end. Could you say that again?
LS: I said, well, I lived off base with my wife. So, All I had to do is come in for inspections every Wednesday and that's about it. I did my work at the prosthetic research lab, you know, work on with different types of materials. Developing them for the prosthetic. Was I was in a medical or even though I was a chemical engineer that was what the army did.
CM: That's pretty interesting. And you mentioned that you were married. When did you get married?
LS: Married in 1953. We were married now 67 years.
CM: Congratulations.
LS: Thank you. Maybe you should congratulate her instead.
Both: (laugh)
CM: Um, so did you have any kids well during those two years. Or was after you. You uh left the war.
LS: Oh yeah I have three children. My daughter, the oldest was born in Walter Reed. In December, just before I got out of the army. I got out in February, and the other two my oldest son was born in Newton Massachusetts and the younger one was born in Nassau County, West Burry.
CM: Did you move around a lot while being in the army or after the army?
LS: No didn't move, but it's spent a year and a half at Walter Reed so. Which was to me. Very good. Good adventure. Really enjoyed that.
CM: Do you have any fond memories of the time one years in our watery?
LS: But that's, that's hard to say. I enjoy it almost every day live door post was married at the time. So it was interesting working at Walter Reed. The only thing that actually really bothered me. Was these burns. You know, little kids getting burned or something. And you had to treat them so. That that hurt more than anything else, amputees didn't bother me.
CM: So you worked with all ages?
LS: Pardon?
CM: You worked with all age groups. Not just like older people you worked with even children as well.
LS: Oh, no. We work with anyone that had a problem as an amputee. You know, we would then with the prosthesis. Get the right match. In fact, any of these soldiers that used to have a hook. We gave an actual. Hand and we had gloves that fit over it. That was just look like skin. And we would color it to the person's coloring, you know if you put one hand up and you have one hand down the one that's up is like a different color was the blood rushes down to the other one. Was interesting is interesting matching it up.
CM: Very, fascinating actually. So you said that after you left you still worked on prosthetics?
LS: What were you saying?
CM: I was saying that after you left the army, you still worked with prosthetics. Correct.
LS: No. When I left the army. As a chemical engineer worked in the chemical fields were mainly in plastic companies. My forte was plastics at the time.
CM: Uh. oh. Okay, so were. You said what you were born in 1989 was that?
LS: No born 1931
CM: Someone gave me the wrong information.
CM: You are alive during World War II? Correct?
LS: Was I what I'm sorry.
CM: You were alive during World War II? Correct?
LS: No. I was alive during the World War II, yes.
CM: But never fought?
LS: Well I was born in 1931. WWII was 41-42 era later. I never got involved with that. Just did the Korean situation.
CM: Got it. Uh, you were around when the TV became a thing in the microwave as well. Do you remember that at all impacting your life, those technological developments?
LS: Really No really, you know, I was too young. And I think at that time.
CM: Uh, did you ever have a favorite president?
LS: any have what?
CM: I'm sorry. I'll repeat that again. Did you ever have a favorite president when you're alive, like someone you really rooted for
LS: Well, when I was born, FDR was president and he's really only one that I grew up with. And of course, it was Truman and Eisenhower. They came later.
CM: Let's see. So did you ever go on any trips like family trips, when after, you know, Vietnam, or even? My bad after the Korean War? Or even with your family back when you were younger.
LS: Oh yeah, we used to go. Spent a lot of time in the Long Beach and Long Island. We used to rent a
little a house there that it was that was good memories at that time. Oh, you're on the beach. He. Well, Everybody takes care you and it was enjoyable.
CM: Sounds like a nice community.
LS: Yeah, yeah, we can. We try to do things as a family, my father. Is from Lithuania. So I'm first generation. My mother's from Poland. So in fact, at that time I used to speak a lot of Yiddish and some Hebrew, not much anymore. As I was growing up, they learned English with me. So we always spoke English so happy today they became fluent in that time. My father live to 97
CM: And you mentioned that you speak Hebrew? Can I ask what religion you believe in if any at all?
LS: Sorry, I didn't catch that.
CM: I was just asking what religion you would consider yourself.
LS: Oh. Jewish I’m Jewish.
CM: Cool.
LS: Yeah Hebrew would be the religion really
CM: Yeah……..So you got any grandkids now or still just your kids?
LS: Well, I got eight grandchildren and one great-grandson. Five girls and three boys the grandchildren and the great is a little boy. Who is now three
CM: Do you ever have. Like big family gatherings where everybody comes back together.
LS: Yeah, we used to lay back, but not anymore. It's…You know with scattered all over the United States. One sons in Massachusetts, one sons in New Hampshire in North Carolina my daughter is in Michigan so it gets a little difficult to have a family reunion. But thank God for the technology we can have it on their computer like zoom and everything.
CM: Did you ever have a favorite sports team or growing up.
LS: The what
CM: A favorite sports teams.
LS: Oh yeah, New York Mets. We were strong Mets fans. Living on Long Island. We used to go to as many games as we could. My wife and I, she's a strong Mets fan and even stronger than me.
CM: Do you feel like you've bonded even more because the Mets.
LS: Yeah
CM: Kid your kids also decide to follow the Mets, or do they have their own sports teams.
LS: No it’s a Mets. Always the Mets.
CM: Always the Mets.
LS: Otherwise, I came my wife, but I think she married me because I was a Mets fan.
CM: Uh, did your wife work for living as well or?
LS: Yeah, when we lived in Long Island. She used to be the airport manager with Bennington airport in Bennington, Vermont, and she enjoyed that. In fact, I have a private pilot's license and I used to have Brendan, I own the Cessna 150 so comes, you know, weekends I go flying and every once in a while. My wife being a weather person had to report the weather. She asked me to go up and see how high the clouds are so I take the plane and go 6000 feet. Oh it was interesting. Oh, I have a pilot's license. I did a lot of things. Growing up Just….
CM: Sorry, it looks like you froze there for the last second. You said you did a lot of things growing up to do stay anything after that.
LS: Well, it's, every day was really an adventure. Got a pilot's license. I'd love flying. You know, private pilots, but whatever I can do, I do. In my younger days.
CM: So, how did you meet your wife?
LS: I was at that time was going to City College of New York and she was the Brooklyn College and we had a party. So that's when we met but didn't really get together with her until she found out that I had a car she stuck around.
CM: Have you have any. What was that, sorry. You seem to freeze these
LS: I was gonna say she thought I was crazy. Once I used to tell her I had my socks painted on my feet because anytime I took a bath is something watch the socks at the same time. I thought that she would just leave but never happened.
CM: When did you get married, then?
LS: 53. Married 67 years. In fact, October 24 was the 67th year
CM: Nice.
LS: Yeah, it's been a long time I was 20 years old at the time.
CM: Let's see. Did you, uh. Did you ever take your grandchildren on a vacations as well or was that more just the occasional visit
LS: Yeah, we used to go a lot to Gilbert Lake State Park. That was a in Otsego County New York, we have family gatherings there we rented a couple of cabins. But then as the kids got older, you know, they went their way. We went our way. So this is what happens. I got eight grandchildren and one great.
CM: Hmm. So you worked at a plastic factory. You mentioned before, or at least some form of a plant, um, was there a specific product that you were making or just all variety of plastics.
LS: It was plastics. Lot of work In a chemical plant. We had vinyl chloride, we may polyvinyl chloride. Plasticizes. A long time ago.
CM: Is there a specific year at least that you can think of that stands out in your mind like. Whether that was a specific event. I'm not let's hold on let me rephrase that a bit better. Do you remember a global event that you can recall from whatever year you can, I guess? Think of like something that really impacted you?
LS: Well, the only thing I can remember is I got a chemical burn and I was six weeks in bandages. So I went up as I was a plant manager at the time in this place to come to me and we've had some problems with one of the filters and as I turned away the gasket blow when they hit me in the back. I ended up in bandages for six weeks. But there's no scarring or anything. Thank God for that.
CM: Thank goodness. Was that the worst injury that ever happened, or did you see worse at the plant.
LS: That's the what. I'm sorry.
CM: Was that the worst injury that happened at the plant. Or…
LS: No, it was a work injury.
CM: Yeah, I was there anything else. Did you see any other injuries at the plant that may have been just as bad or worse?
LS: No, that was, that was the worst one. I used to run the plastic plant also. So I did a lot of experimental work and PepsiCola and PepsiCala bottles and we'd make different type of plastics and every once in a while, a bottle would just rupture. I do remember one point that when I was in a pilot plant. A gasket on one of the reactor just blew and just drove me across the room didn't get hurt or anything was just wild thing like slow motion when you request the room, but unfortunately, I used to take a lot of chances.
CM: Uh, so going back to your college years. Do you remember a class that I guess inspired you to go into Chemical Engineering or was it just something that happened?
LS: What was interesting because when I signed up. I signed up to be an accountant and at the last minute. And I said, no, I'm going to go into chemical engineering. I like the instructor guy was a Dr. Newman, he dismantle the German planes set to the war, very interesting guy. Unfortunately, he stuttered. So he would look. Write on the blackboard what his right hand and have an eraser in his left hand and as he's writing. He's erasing oh yeah to be quick with him. But hey, he's my one of my outstanding. Versus the other one was a doctor Kalani which we just talked about different types of materials. You know, you, you're bringing up memories that I haven't thought of and years.
CM: Did you have a lot of friends in college, or was it more just going there for the work
LS: Well, I went to college after. When I was stationed Walter Reed and I got out of the Army and I went back to college on the GI Bill. So gave me up to refinish shopping and get my degree. Was I had interrupted getting the degree to go as I was drafted so. But then I finished up.
CM: Uh, What were your feelings. Once you find out you're being drafted?
LS: Always my feelings of being drafted? Wasn't too happy about it. I don't leave home. I had to go. Well, you know, that's life.
CM: Did you make any good friends while being in the army?
LS: Yeah, I had, I had a good friend. But you know when I got out. He didn't live in the same part of the country that I lived in, and we just, you know, we lost contact its unfortunate but… very unfortunate. Know also blame myself on that because I never took the time to reconnect with any of these people, you know, just busy at home and it's more…(Internet issues)
CM: So when you finally were able to be home. Did you do anything for, I guess? Did you continue your reading hobby or did you delve into other hobbies?
LS: Oh, The time when I got out of the Army. I had, I was married, and I had a daughter was born December 30 and uh Walter Reed. So there was really not too much time to do anything. Just trying to survive at that point. And though we moved back and we live in a small apartment that too far from the folks area. It was nice. Then went out on my own and Got a degree in started to work for our first company I worked for was Dewy and Allyn chemical company in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
CM: Did you just freeze or are you still there. Up. You're moving again. Sorry you froze for that you mentioned you worked at Cambridge and then I couldn't the picture. Stop moving and sound stop going through.
LS: Yeah Well, it worked for the company called Dewy and Allyn chemical company. And they plastics were really was my forte. I really enjoyed. You know, trying to develop them and whatever.
CM: So have the Mets brought you back for any. Baseball games or have you been kind of off the baseball trail for a while. Hold on a second, it appears that a connections a bit unsecure. So let's, I'm just gonna wait for that to settle down, be a bit before I ask any more questions.
LS: Okay. I’m at your beck and call.
CM: Thank you very much. Let's see, it looks like it's starting to settle down….. Okay. So going back to the Mets. Have you guys been to a recent game or I guess in recent years games? Or have you guys really just been able to watch from a distance at this point?
LS: I'm sorry I didn't catch that?
CM: Uh, have you been to have you been back to watch the Mets? Like, have you been there in person at all? In recent years, or have it has it had to be more at a TV viewpoint at a radio?
LS: Five years ago was. We used to live in Bennington, Vermont. Right now I live in Saratoga Springs live in a 55 and over community.
CM: And how'd you end up in Saratoga Springs from Bennington, Vermont.
LS: Well, lived in Bennington Vermont first. And we used to come over to Saratoga Springs all the time. So we decided when I had the opportunity
CM: To move here.
LS: Now, I like Saratoga Springs. Yeah.
CM: Did you guys come for the horse racing or just for everything.
LS: No. Just, just because we like Saratoga Springs much better than Bennington, Vermont, but more things going on here. And then, my wife never liked Bennington, Vermont
CM: Would you say Bennington, Vermont. Was your least favorite place to live.
LS: I like Bennington, Vermont, and in fact I've, you know, I've lived in a many places. It's like anything else. And you can live in a big city or a small town, you can vegetate or be active and I enjoyed being active. I enjoy politics so.
CM: What so you were a big follower politics throughout the years?
LS: My what?
CM: I was asking you said that you were very big follower of politics throughout the years? Yes?
LS: Yeah, well I enjoy politics enjoy getting involved with the in Bennington and when I was in Saratoga Springs. I got involved with the politics in Saratoga Springs.
LS: It just makes life interesting
CM: Did you run for anything or was it just more support?
LS: Than I will. I'm sorry?
CM: Did you run for anything in Saratoga? Was it just more for support?
LS: No, I Was a Housing, Commissioner, at one point. Well, five years. I didn't get that much involved. I say, mainly in the background. Now, it was a housing commissioner about 5 years.
CM: Did you get into politics anywhere else, or was it just more Saratoga that you really were more involved with?
LS: It really was just Saratoga. Somewhat involved in Burlington, Vermont, but It was just a different atmosphere.
CM: Where you work in Bennington, Vermont. (Computer issues)
LS: When?
CM: When I'm sorry continue what you were saying before, I didn't realize you were still going.
LS: I'm sorry I didn't catch that.
CM: I didn't mean to interrupt you. I thought you. The screen froze again there for a second. So I thought you finished but uh what I asked. Afterwards, was Where did you work. When you were in Burlington, Vermont, or were you retired then.
LS: Oh, I worked in a hooskicfalls. Short for company called oh Mitsui. Which made the different types of chemicals and plastics.
CM: Did you know what the plastics were used for? Was it just general purpose?
LS: General purpose.
CM: Did you have a favorite company you worked for or were they all kind of just the same?
LS: You know that's a very interesting question. I enjoyed working for a company called Dewy and Allyn chemical company in Cambridge, Massachusetts. In fact, that's one of the first companies. I really enjoyed working for me to companies, otherwise I would not have worked there.
CM: Did you ever travel throughout the country, or did you mainly stay on the east coast.
LS: Oh no I travel, I used to go to Japan once a year business movement. Mitsui when I worked for them. Of course we had a plant in Osaka. So once a year I used to go to Japan is to go to Tokyo, Yokohama, and Osaka. It was nice.
CM: Did you ever take your family with you, or was it just you that went
LS: Yeah, I always took my wife with me.
CM: Did you have a fun time in Tokyo. I was asking, did she have a fun time in Japan.
LS: Yeah, I had a great time in Japan. Yeah, I love the people there. I was very involved with them. When I worked for a company called Mitsui. Mitsui was in Japan was in Osaka. So I used to go there once a year.
CM: Did you travel anywhere else around the world.. Sorry.
LS: What do you say born?
CM: Sorry?
LS: And it was nice going. Yeah, I used to take the wife with me, so she traveled almost everywhere that I went, you know, any, any business trip I went I took her.
CM: Did you travel and… What was that
LS: That really kept me out of trouble taking the wife.
CM: A. Is there anywhere else around the world that you traveled
LS: Any what
CM: I was asking, Did you travel anywhere else around the world. You mentioned Japan did you like go to England?
LS: Japan. I had, I had a client in Sweden used to go to Sweden once a year. Was in Belgium. And my son. When he was working. He was working for… he lived in Germany. Frankfurt, Germany, so I used to go visit him. Oh, my wife and I used to visit him. That's when we were able to travel.
CM: Did any of your kids decide to follow in your footsteps and get a chemical engineering degree.
LS: Yeah, my youngest son is a chemical engineer my oldest son is a industrial engineer. So they both went into engineering, and my one of my grandson's an engineer also worked for Lockheed Martin. I told I wish one of them became a doctor or something so we can have in the family. And work they all became engineers.
CM: So you mentioned that your kids live all around the world. One lives in Germany, you've mentioned where the. Do you know where the rest of your kids are currently stationed?
LS: My kids are now?
CM: Yeah.
LS: Yeah, my daughter, which is the oldest is in Michigan. My oldest son is in Littleton Mass and my youngest son is in North Carolina Greensboro, North Carolina. So all scattered also and they all did much better than I had so very happy about that.
CM: Do you have a funny story from when you were having to I guess. Take care of your kids or an event that really sticks out in your mind. From the time when you saw them grow up.
LS: Well, the only thing that sticks in my mind now. Is one we were watching my grandson, and in our apartment, and my son and I was there and he had a dirty diaper. So we go over Bennington together. My wife back to haven't cleaned him up. As my son said we took crap from no one Let's see.
CM: Did you do any volunteer work throughout your life or was it mainly just working at the chemical plant.
LS: Mainly chemical engineering
CM: Uh, this might be one that I don't know if you have ever been here. Have you ever gone to Disney World, or have your kids ever dragged you to it to it.
LS: Sorry?
CM: Sorry you froze. Again, I didn't realize you were still talking. Um, I asked.
CM: Did you kids ever drag you to like Disney World.
LS: We went to Disney World only once. When I took all the kids that was way back Way back. We enjoyed it. We rented a house out there and spent about a week on Disney.
CM: Did you ever enjoy going to see movies and stuff Like that.
LS: Ever what I'm sorry.
CM: Did you ever go to see movies through your life or some point or even like Broadway. Shows or just shows in general.
LS: Yeah, we used to go to some we go, Broadway, show. Unfortunately, we can always afford the top tier in a balcony. Never New York I assure, but we took in as many shows as we could.LS: My wife was a folk singer. So she works. She's worked with some group in New York City.
CM: Did you get to meet any famous people doing that?
LS: Famous people? Yeah, the only people I met was my wife. Both (laugh). Yeah, we met… can't think of his name….Earl, Ray James. Met him on a plane. Can’t think of his name, unfortunately.
CM: It happens. Uh, so you used to live in Brooklyn? Then when you got older, you got drafted, then you went. Back to sorry I'm forgetting the name. It is.
LS: Whose name.
CM: Does you're trying to member my make sure I'm making sure I'm keeping track of the places. What was not Waltz, it's a. Walter reed that was it. You went used to live in Walter reed and then you went t Cambridge and then Bennington?
LS: Yes.
CM: Okay, just making sure I'm keeping track of everywhere. You've gone in that timeframe. Did you ever take any road trips anywhere?
LS: Any road trips
CM: Yeah, like a long times in the car. Going from place to place.
LS: No, never. Whenever we whenever we travel, we either went by plane or by Bus, but never car.
CM: Did you ever have to.
LS: No that’s not true. No because we got married. We took a trip down to Florida by car I drove down there.
CM: Did you enjoy your time in Florida when you went
LS: Pardon
CM: I asked, how was your time in Florida?
LS: How much time in Florida?
CM: How was the trip to Florida?
LS: It was good. Those were the days when I can you know drive a car those distances wife also drove. We also had a camping trailer that I used to lug behind my car. So we did a lot of camping used to camp up in Canada. That was nice.
CM: Was Canada your favorite place to camp.
LS: Montreal we camped up there.
CM: Did you ever take your kids camping.
LS: You look frozen.
CM: I think You're right, I think it looks like our screen, stop being frozen. Did you ever take your kids camping?
LS: Well, yeah, we always took the kids, my daughter never liked it. But she wasn't we're not going to leave home. It was not an outdoors person. Boys loved it, of course.
CM: Did you ever have a running with wild animals well camping?
LS: Never have a what? Sorry.
CM: Did you ever run into like wild animals? When camping like deer or moose?
LS: No, I never saw any of those things.
CM: You ever go fishing while Camping
LS: No. I don't, I don't really fish. I went once with my son and equal fish those sunfish wanted to take it home for show and tell. Wouldn’t last anyway.
CM: Did you kids ever try and…..Continue saying. No, no, no, it our connection keeps freezing up so I you freeze up and I think you're done. So I tried to ask another question but continue what you were saying.
LS: I didn't catch it. I'm sorry.
CM: I was just saying it seems that our screens. Keep freezing. So I assumed you finished what you were saying. But continue what you were just saying a second ago.
LS: I'm finished
CM: Okay. I was going to ask, have your kids ever tried sneaking like something bizarre into the show and tell classes?
LS: Not really. Not really nothing bizarre. Everything was nice and calm when we went
CM: Did all your kids go the same school or did you send them different places.
LS: Now what? I'm sorry.
CM: It's okay. Did you send your kids to different schools or did they all start in the same place?
LS: Actually they wanted different schools, my daughter went was in Brooklyn, New York, she went to
No, no, she was in Walter Reed. So they all wanted different schools. I know that. What schools. I don't remember.
CM: That's perfectly fine. Uh, did you back in your high school years, get into any high school quote on quote shenanigans.
LS: And I want. I'm sorry.
CM: Did you ever get into any mischief and high school
LS: No, no.
CM: Okay.
LS: Went to Lafayette high school, Brooklyn graduated from there and went to ccny
CM: Okay, that should be about wrapping up our interview time
LS: Pardon?
CM: I was saying that that should be wrapping up our interview time it is 150 we started at a 1250 so it's it's been an hour. Thank you for talking with me.
LS: Okay.
CM: Do you have any questions or anything.
LS: No, I want to thank you
CM: Thank you so much for spending your time.
LS: very interesting. Yeah.
CM: Now. Okay. Uh, I'll stop the recording now. Let's make sure I can do that these tech things don't always go well.
Second Transcription of Lou Schneider
CM: Today is 11/18/2020. I am the interviewer CM and to view it in Luke Snyder, would you like to introduce yourself?
Lou Schneider: Pardon?
Cooper Murphy: Would you like to introduce yourself?
LS: I’m Lou Schneider.
CM: So, Lou. Are you find with this recording being used in our project at Skidmore, and possibly be accessed by the public domain.
LS: Of course.
CM: Okay, so let's get started. So you talked about how a you're in the Korean War for two years. Correct?
LS: Well, I was actually during the Korean War situation. I was stationed in Washington, DC. I worked for the Army prosthetics research lab where we did research and development on different type of materials for prosthesis, which was a very interesting job.
CM: So what would you say would be the timeframe from. When you first joined to when it finally ended.
LS: Well, I wanted 53 to 5519
CM: Okay, so can you kind of walk me through the experience from day getting drafted to basically what happened next to when you were allowed to go home.
LS: (clears throat) Well, I was drafted, but I was also married at the time. And because I guess because I was married and being a chemical engineer they station me and Washington DC, Walter Reed Army Medical hospital which I worked for the prosthetics Research Lab, which was good duty.
CM: Okay, so you got drafted, you got brought to the prosthetics research lab. And were you given any training and then sent over as well, or did you ever actually go to Korea?
LS: No, I had no training at all. You know, was I have a degree in chemical engineering. So they figured smart enough anyway.
CM: Sorry, just writing down some stuff. Okay, so you got you had the medical not the medical the chemical engineering degree and you're just flown over. Did you have you ever saw in combat, as you told me before. They never made you do like a boot camp or anything like that. Correct.
LS: Oh yeah, oh yeah, we had a go eight weeks of infantry training and then eight weeks of medical training. Was I was assigned to the Medical Corps.
CM: Okay, so when would you say you actually got to go over to be stationed in Korea was that between 54-55
LS: Pardon again.
CM: Sorry, what was the actual part where you got to go over to Korea was that between like 54 and 55 or was you
LS: 53 and 55
CM: You fine. OK. Cool, cool. How many patients would you say you saw a day over at a in Korea?
LS: You mean and Walter Reed work they're willing to read amputees. And research and development on different type of materials and now we're actually our test students as I would call them. We work with about eight different amputees that lost limbs that we're not the same, you know, arms, two legs. It was interesting work.
CM: Okay. That's your wrap up that little segment. So, uh, what's the war ended did you, uh, did you remember the experience of finding out when people discovered the double helix? Just curious?
LS: Not really, no.
CM: Yeah, I figured. I just want to see that for myself. I'm a bio major. Okay. So, Uh, sent after the Korean War ended. You were alive during you know the whole space race. Correct.
LS: Well, when the Korean War ended, and I got discharged from the army. I actually went back to school. And went back for my masters, but I never completed it. Married at the time had a kid, you know, it's very, very difficult. So how to actually find a job, which I did. I worked for a company called doing Dewy and Allyn chemical company as an engineer, in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
CM: Uh, yeah, I remember that actually from last time. So going quickly back to the space race and everything. Do you remember like all those events like Sputnik and everything like that, and if so, how did that make you feel during that time period?
LS: Sputnik?
CM: Yeah, when the Satellite went up
LS: Russia put the spacecraft. I really didn't think much about it at the time. Yeah, I figured that you know I’ve government knew what they were doing it. We're going to put up something also and I was not involved with it so didn't really care too much.
CM: What about when you heard about someone was able to go on the moon?
LS: That was interesting. I mean, that was the first to me to first have space travel to go to various places the various planets. It was exciting space is very exciting the space station was also very exciting.
CM: I bet, especially since I was the first of any of its kind.
LS: Yeah.
So after the space race. Do you remember anything as well of like when the Cold War was starting to become more of a thing? Like for instance Cuban Missile Crisis. How did that affect you at all during one that was?
LS: Not really. Not at all.
CM: Just curious. OK, so moving on from that you mentioned that you got married a what time again did you actually get married at
LS: Like what I'm what
CM: What year did you get married again.
LS: 1954
CM: Okay, and where did you say the wedding was
LS: Wedding was in Brooklyn, New York.
CM: Do you remember where you went for your honeymoon.
LS: Well, I was in the army at the time and I had a week off so we stopped off in Rahway, New Jersey. The first night was it was raining and then we ended up in Atlantic City. And then, of course, I had a week before I was had to go back to Walter Reed. In fact, my daughter was born in Walter Reed in 1954. The fact, December 30 1954
CM: Okay. So you mentioned before and unfortunately wasn't able to get this down to my notes. You said that your favorite place was either New port, a Walter Reed?
LS: Was what?
CM: You mentioned that you moved around a lot in your life, last time when we talked, and you mentioned that either your favorite place was Walter Reed or Newport, do you remember which one was
LS: Walter Reed. Fact, though I was stationed there for a year and a half, and the prosthetics Research Lab, which was to me very interesting work, you know, working with these amputees. They were our test specimens on the materials that we developed and we work with about eight amputees. They were fun group.
CM: Do you remember any of the uh I guess. Patients you had like anything specific about them. Besides, you know, I'm being amputees’.
LS: Well, there's one thing that always sticks out on my mind. We had a nurse that lost part of her nose. And she came in to be fitted for plastic nose, but we come back every week because there was a stain on the on the nose. She smoked so what we did is we gave her a dozen noses and said, go home and do what want. In fact, we had one amputate that lost his left arm, and he built his friend that he can swim beat him in one lap and no water in the pool at Walter Reed and we fitted him with a fin. So yeah, I'll tell you, we had a lot of fun. They were a fun group they didn't feel sorry for themselves. I said, this is it. And we'll do the best we can.
CM: So, if you don't mind? Actually, could you give me like a walkthrough figure daily I guess life back when used to live and watery?
LS: Well, I was married at the time. So we live off post and of course, I had a car so how do. (cough) Excuse me, actually I was assigned to Walter Reed, but I worked in a place called Forest Glen. That's where the prosthesis was. Every day we had a call for an inspection. At seven o'clock in the morning. That was about it. Was just a routine. My daughter was born and Walter Reed 1954 December 30
CM: And when you got home here. What do you normally do when you got back to your house?
LS: In Washington, DC.
CM: Yes.
LS: Was it. No, just nothing just stayed with the wife, and we went to various places. I love this Smithsonian Institute. So we used to go there pretty often but till being in the army. I think we got a stipend of 250- $280 a month and we had to make that thing last I remember that she's we saved up so we could buy, one egg roll.
CM: A fan of egg rolls? Are you a fan of egg rolls?
LS: Oh yeah, I like, first of all, I like Asian food.
CM: Can you remember where you tasted the best Asian food?
LS: Where, what I'm sorry.
CM: Can you remember where you test my bad, tasted the best Asian food.
LS: Best Asian foods that actually were testing best for when I used to go to Japan. It's not the same. It's, it's, it's different.
CM: Okay, so after working with amputees’ and everything you said you worked at a chemical plants. Correct?
LS: Of work where
CM: I'm sorry had you worked at multiple different chemical plants.
LS: Work for a company first company was Dewy and Allyn Chemical Company, which was in Cambridge, Massachusetts. And then I took a job than on Long Island and I worked for a company called Rubber Corporation of America, mainly in plastics. Plastics was my forte. That's what I've always studied
CM: Yeah. You mentioned that that's a quite a bit. And it's very interesting, too. But I want to ask, did you ever remember having to witness the implement of the stationary computers. Business computers into the workplace, like those giant machines on the wall that you plug in numbers to.
LS: Oh, no. In fact, the first time I work with computers is when I left the army. When I went to work for Rubber Cooperation of America. They gave me a computer take home so
CM: Cool. Did you like using a computer.
LS: Yeah. Haven't been without one since.
CM: Especially in this time I'm betting?
LS: My wife has the laptop, of course, but I use the one stationary here in my office at home.
CM: Yeah, I have a stationary too
LS: I like it
CM: Oh, let's see. So you mentioned. Actually, speaking of your wife and family and everything. You mentioned that you like to go camping, in Montreal. Correct?
LS: Yeah, we had a camping trailer had a 16 foot. Uh what was it called I can't think of the name, but we used to do a lot of camping up and down the East Coast spent time of Florida Hollywood, Florida. I remember that, But I enjoy camping up in Canada. In those days you had no problems getting through into Canada. Long time ago.
CM: Yeah. I've been to Canada. A couple times real nice up there, but I was gonna ask. Did you just like start camping out of a whim, or did you use to go camping before he had you got with your family and everything.
LS: Oh yeah, when I was growing up in Brooklyn, New York, I belong to the Boy Scouts. So we always camp. And I just continue doing that. I enjoyed it. But my daughter never did.
CM: So you were a boy scout when you're younger?
LS: pardon
CM: You were a boy scout when you were younger?
LS: Oh, yeah.
LS: Did a lot of things when I was younger. Some foolish some not
CM: You got any stories from the Boy Scouts or was it just kind of a normal experience as you would say
LS: Normal experience. You know, you read about what they what was going on with the abuse. We never had that in Brooklyn, New York.
CM: Be my guess. I'll pause the recording. (Time passes for the phone call) Yeah, sorry about that. That's new. I'm definitely gonna have to talk to my phone provider about that one.
LS: Interesting, though.
CM: I know. so, uh, speaking of what is there anything about your life that you'd like to share discuss just anything that you thought you wanted to share from last time that you didn't get to?
LS: I don’t know, growing up in Brooklyn, New York was an adventure because Coney Island was my stomping ground used to go there pretty often. And uh but that's really, that's about it. I enjoyed living in Brooklyn. My wife still has family there. So we go back occasionally, spent a lot of time in Coney Island. In fact, and Coney Island we were up on the subway, which is the L and we watch Luna Park burn when that the big fire.
CM; Oh, yeah, yeah.
LS: Then I think Trump put up his building or whatever.
CM: So when I'm not actually I don't have to remember the date that have Luna Park apart burned do you?
LS: What date.
CM: The date when a Luna Park burn.
LS: Don't even know how had to be in be in the early 50sif I am not mistaken.
CM: I'll look it up later I was just curious if you knew off the top of your head.
LS: No, I don't.
CM: That’s probably fine. Well, I guess we've reached the last question, unless you have anything else you want to say before then?
LS: That everything that
CM: So if you had to give advice to, I guess, the current generation, what would it be if you don't have any that's fine. Just curious what you?
CM: Great advice.
LS: Have a sense of humor.
CM: That is a good one….What do you think it's important to have a sense of humor?
LS: What if you if you what?
CM: Sorry, I was asking, why do you think it is important to have a sense of humor?
LS: Oh, You can't be serious soul, your life and the lifetime. You got to find humor in everything. I think that levels you offer keeps you know basic. You know, if you don't have a sense of humor. I mean, like to be very boring.
CM: Indeed, Okay. Actually, I did have one question. Did you ever go camping with your parents.
LS: My friends?
CM: Your friends or your parents?
LS: No. First of all, my father came from Lithuania and my mother from Poland, so of course they do that, you know, they were of the older generation. No, we went most camping I did was with friends. When I was in a boy scouts or, when we got older and I had a family. We have a 16 foot trailer camper that we used to use. I Love that daughters and never did. But I did that the boys did of course. So we used to camp all the way up. Used to go to Hollywood, Florida. We camped up in, as I said in Canada. Those were the days when you get into Canada pretty easily, which you can't anymore.
CM: Okay, well that's all the questions I had so unless there's anything again, you can think of that you want to add that would basically wrap it up.
LS: I can't think of anything at this point. I think you did a good job.
CM: Thank you. I hope my teacher thinks that too.
LS: I hope so.
CM: Okay, I'm gonna stop the recording. Now then.
Okay.
CM: Today is 10/26/2020 time is 12:55 pm I am the interviewer CM would you like to introduce yourself.
Lou Schneider: My name is Lou Schneider, I am 89 born 4/17/1931. What else can I say?
CM: That’s about it. Okay so are you okay with this information being stored or shared through the public domain and in Skidmore Saratoga memorial project.
LS: No problem.
CM: Okay, and let's get started shall we. Okay, first question is, where did you live as a kid.
LS: Wander what I’m sorry louder.
CM: Where did you live as a kid.
LS: Brooklyn, New York. That's where I was born.
CM: And what was your family like
LS: Well family. I'm the first generation in the United States. My father came from Lithuania, my mother from Poland.
CM: Did you have any siblings.
LS: I have a younger sister three years younger than me.
CM: Did you guys go to the same school
LS: Yes, Lafayette high school in Brooklyn New York
CM: And how're classes for that.
LS: Alone one what. I'm sorry.
CM: Sorry, did you have of what we're teachers like back then.
LS: I still didn't catch the question, I'm sorry.
CM: It's perfectly fine. What were teachers like back at your middle school?
LS: What was it like
CM: Yeah.
LS: Well, I'm being born and raised in Brooklyn, New York. Is uh my stomping ground was Coney Island spent a lot of time, they're. Doing a lot of things. As I was growing up at the age of eight. We used to play had some friends. We used to play chess Pinochle and hearts.
CM: And did any of those become hobbies that you did in the future.
LS: Hobbies?
CM: Hobbies. Yeah. What were your hobbies?
LS: Yeah, the only the only hobby. I really had was reading. I enjoy, you know, books, a lot of reading. And just living the good life in Brooklyn, New York, and stomping ground in Coney Island.
CM: Sounds fun. Did you have a specific genre that you really liked…Or a topic?
LS: Or what?
CM: Book. Did you have a topic of a book that you really liked to read about
LS: No, I read on. Anything I can get my hands on. But I gravitated more towards mysteries than anything else.
CM: Cool. Did you have a favorite type of music as a kid?
LS: Did I have a what
CM: Did you have a favorite type of music like a type of band or
LS: Type of anything. No, really. Enjoyed own music. Yeah. Gravitated a little towards jazz, but that's about it.
CM: Did you have a favorite holiday?
LS: Favorite what
CM: Holiday
LS: Any day. I didn't have to go to school with was a holiday to me.
CM: That's fair enough.
LS: I was not. I was not one of the best students available at the time as growing up as I got older, I want. I want to see college. I got a degree in chemical engineering. So just settle down a bit.
CM: Uh, did you have any pets as a kid?
LS: Did you ask your question.
CM: Yeah, sorry, it looks like our connections, a bit iffy. But, um, Yes. I said, did you have any pets as a kid.
LS: No. No, I'll no pets went up by. Those in Brooklyn and a three bed in a three-bedroom apartment. She used to sleep in the bedroom with my folks. I used to sleep in a roll away cot in the living room. Which made it interesting.
CM: So you mentioned how you went to community college and we've talked about your. Elementary School. But do you know, do you remember where you went to high school.
LS: Yes, Lafayette High School in Brooklyn New York, and I admit though I really weren’t a good student never took any interest in it until I grew up.
CM: And I know that you're a veteran. Can you tell me which war he fought in if not wars?
LS: Korea I was very fortunate during the Korean War. I was stationed in Washington, DC. I work for the Army prosthetics research lab we did research on different types of materials artificial limbs. And it was interesting. So the work with amputees almost all my life at the time.
CM: Uh, did you ever see any combat. During your time there?
LS: None at all, no.
CM: So you have worked with amputees and just make sure I'm getting this right. And you developed different materials for prosthetics and stuff like this.
LS: Right.
CM: This might be a very specific question, but did you ever have a specific type of, I guess, limb that you were more of an expert about making a prosthetic about?
LS: No, not really.
CM: Just all over everywhere? Nice.
LS: Yeah.
CM: How long did you serve for
LS: Well, actually I was in for two years spent a year and a half and Walter Reed as I send a prosthetic sweet. I was…
CM: I'm sorry you cut out on my end. Could you say that again?
LS: I said, well, I lived off base with my wife. So, All I had to do is come in for inspections every Wednesday and that's about it. I did my work at the prosthetic research lab, you know, work on with different types of materials. Developing them for the prosthetic. Was I was in a medical or even though I was a chemical engineer that was what the army did.
CM: That's pretty interesting. And you mentioned that you were married. When did you get married?
LS: Married in 1953. We were married now 67 years.
CM: Congratulations.
LS: Thank you. Maybe you should congratulate her instead.
Both: (laugh)
CM: Um, so did you have any kids well during those two years. Or was after you. You uh left the war.
LS: Oh yeah I have three children. My daughter, the oldest was born in Walter Reed. In December, just before I got out of the army. I got out in February, and the other two my oldest son was born in Newton Massachusetts and the younger one was born in Nassau County, West Burry.
CM: Did you move around a lot while being in the army or after the army?
LS: No didn't move, but it's spent a year and a half at Walter Reed so. Which was to me. Very good. Good adventure. Really enjoyed that.
CM: Do you have any fond memories of the time one years in our watery?
LS: But that's, that's hard to say. I enjoy it almost every day live door post was married at the time. So it was interesting working at Walter Reed. The only thing that actually really bothered me. Was these burns. You know, little kids getting burned or something. And you had to treat them so. That that hurt more than anything else, amputees didn't bother me.
CM: So you worked with all ages?
LS: Pardon?
CM: You worked with all age groups. Not just like older people you worked with even children as well.
LS: Oh, no. We work with anyone that had a problem as an amputee. You know, we would then with the prosthesis. Get the right match. In fact, any of these soldiers that used to have a hook. We gave an actual. Hand and we had gloves that fit over it. That was just look like skin. And we would color it to the person's coloring, you know if you put one hand up and you have one hand down the one that's up is like a different color was the blood rushes down to the other one. Was interesting is interesting matching it up.
CM: Very, fascinating actually. So you said that after you left you still worked on prosthetics?
LS: What were you saying?
CM: I was saying that after you left the army, you still worked with prosthetics. Correct.
LS: No. When I left the army. As a chemical engineer worked in the chemical fields were mainly in plastic companies. My forte was plastics at the time.
CM: Uh. oh. Okay, so were. You said what you were born in 1989 was that?
LS: No born 1931
CM: Someone gave me the wrong information.
CM: You are alive during World War II? Correct?
LS: Was I what I'm sorry.
CM: You were alive during World War II? Correct?
LS: No. I was alive during the World War II, yes.
CM: But never fought?
LS: Well I was born in 1931. WWII was 41-42 era later. I never got involved with that. Just did the Korean situation.
CM: Got it. Uh, you were around when the TV became a thing in the microwave as well. Do you remember that at all impacting your life, those technological developments?
LS: Really No really, you know, I was too young. And I think at that time.
CM: Uh, did you ever have a favorite president?
LS: any have what?
CM: I'm sorry. I'll repeat that again. Did you ever have a favorite president when you're alive, like someone you really rooted for
LS: Well, when I was born, FDR was president and he's really only one that I grew up with. And of course, it was Truman and Eisenhower. They came later.
CM: Let's see. So did you ever go on any trips like family trips, when after, you know, Vietnam, or even? My bad after the Korean War? Or even with your family back when you were younger.
LS: Oh yeah, we used to go. Spent a lot of time in the Long Beach and Long Island. We used to rent a
little a house there that it was that was good memories at that time. Oh, you're on the beach. He. Well, Everybody takes care you and it was enjoyable.
CM: Sounds like a nice community.
LS: Yeah, yeah, we can. We try to do things as a family, my father. Is from Lithuania. So I'm first generation. My mother's from Poland. So in fact, at that time I used to speak a lot of Yiddish and some Hebrew, not much anymore. As I was growing up, they learned English with me. So we always spoke English so happy today they became fluent in that time. My father live to 97
CM: And you mentioned that you speak Hebrew? Can I ask what religion you believe in if any at all?
LS: Sorry, I didn't catch that.
CM: I was just asking what religion you would consider yourself.
LS: Oh. Jewish I’m Jewish.
CM: Cool.
LS: Yeah Hebrew would be the religion really
CM: Yeah……..So you got any grandkids now or still just your kids?
LS: Well, I got eight grandchildren and one great-grandson. Five girls and three boys the grandchildren and the great is a little boy. Who is now three
CM: Do you ever have. Like big family gatherings where everybody comes back together.
LS: Yeah, we used to lay back, but not anymore. It's…You know with scattered all over the United States. One sons in Massachusetts, one sons in New Hampshire in North Carolina my daughter is in Michigan so it gets a little difficult to have a family reunion. But thank God for the technology we can have it on their computer like zoom and everything.
CM: Did you ever have a favorite sports team or growing up.
LS: The what
CM: A favorite sports teams.
LS: Oh yeah, New York Mets. We were strong Mets fans. Living on Long Island. We used to go to as many games as we could. My wife and I, she's a strong Mets fan and even stronger than me.
CM: Do you feel like you've bonded even more because the Mets.
LS: Yeah
CM: Kid your kids also decide to follow the Mets, or do they have their own sports teams.
LS: No it’s a Mets. Always the Mets.
CM: Always the Mets.
LS: Otherwise, I came my wife, but I think she married me because I was a Mets fan.
CM: Uh, did your wife work for living as well or?
LS: Yeah, when we lived in Long Island. She used to be the airport manager with Bennington airport in Bennington, Vermont, and she enjoyed that. In fact, I have a private pilot's license and I used to have Brendan, I own the Cessna 150 so comes, you know, weekends I go flying and every once in a while. My wife being a weather person had to report the weather. She asked me to go up and see how high the clouds are so I take the plane and go 6000 feet. Oh it was interesting. Oh, I have a pilot's license. I did a lot of things. Growing up Just….
CM: Sorry, it looks like you froze there for the last second. You said you did a lot of things growing up to do stay anything after that.
LS: Well, it's, every day was really an adventure. Got a pilot's license. I'd love flying. You know, private pilots, but whatever I can do, I do. In my younger days.
CM: So, how did you meet your wife?
LS: I was at that time was going to City College of New York and she was the Brooklyn College and we had a party. So that's when we met but didn't really get together with her until she found out that I had a car she stuck around.
CM: Have you have any. What was that, sorry. You seem to freeze these
LS: I was gonna say she thought I was crazy. Once I used to tell her I had my socks painted on my feet because anytime I took a bath is something watch the socks at the same time. I thought that she would just leave but never happened.
CM: When did you get married, then?
LS: 53. Married 67 years. In fact, October 24 was the 67th year
CM: Nice.
LS: Yeah, it's been a long time I was 20 years old at the time.
CM: Let's see. Did you, uh. Did you ever take your grandchildren on a vacations as well or was that more just the occasional visit
LS: Yeah, we used to go a lot to Gilbert Lake State Park. That was a in Otsego County New York, we have family gatherings there we rented a couple of cabins. But then as the kids got older, you know, they went their way. We went our way. So this is what happens. I got eight grandchildren and one great.
CM: Hmm. So you worked at a plastic factory. You mentioned before, or at least some form of a plant, um, was there a specific product that you were making or just all variety of plastics.
LS: It was plastics. Lot of work In a chemical plant. We had vinyl chloride, we may polyvinyl chloride. Plasticizes. A long time ago.
CM: Is there a specific year at least that you can think of that stands out in your mind like. Whether that was a specific event. I'm not let's hold on let me rephrase that a bit better. Do you remember a global event that you can recall from whatever year you can, I guess? Think of like something that really impacted you?
LS: Well, the only thing I can remember is I got a chemical burn and I was six weeks in bandages. So I went up as I was a plant manager at the time in this place to come to me and we've had some problems with one of the filters and as I turned away the gasket blow when they hit me in the back. I ended up in bandages for six weeks. But there's no scarring or anything. Thank God for that.
CM: Thank goodness. Was that the worst injury that ever happened, or did you see worse at the plant.
LS: That's the what. I'm sorry.
CM: Was that the worst injury that happened at the plant. Or…
LS: No, it was a work injury.
CM: Yeah, I was there anything else. Did you see any other injuries at the plant that may have been just as bad or worse?
LS: No, that was, that was the worst one. I used to run the plastic plant also. So I did a lot of experimental work and PepsiCola and PepsiCala bottles and we'd make different type of plastics and every once in a while, a bottle would just rupture. I do remember one point that when I was in a pilot plant. A gasket on one of the reactor just blew and just drove me across the room didn't get hurt or anything was just wild thing like slow motion when you request the room, but unfortunately, I used to take a lot of chances.
CM: Uh, so going back to your college years. Do you remember a class that I guess inspired you to go into Chemical Engineering or was it just something that happened?
LS: What was interesting because when I signed up. I signed up to be an accountant and at the last minute. And I said, no, I'm going to go into chemical engineering. I like the instructor guy was a Dr. Newman, he dismantle the German planes set to the war, very interesting guy. Unfortunately, he stuttered. So he would look. Write on the blackboard what his right hand and have an eraser in his left hand and as he's writing. He's erasing oh yeah to be quick with him. But hey, he's my one of my outstanding. Versus the other one was a doctor Kalani which we just talked about different types of materials. You know, you, you're bringing up memories that I haven't thought of and years.
CM: Did you have a lot of friends in college, or was it more just going there for the work
LS: Well, I went to college after. When I was stationed Walter Reed and I got out of the Army and I went back to college on the GI Bill. So gave me up to refinish shopping and get my degree. Was I had interrupted getting the degree to go as I was drafted so. But then I finished up.
CM: Uh, What were your feelings. Once you find out you're being drafted?
LS: Always my feelings of being drafted? Wasn't too happy about it. I don't leave home. I had to go. Well, you know, that's life.
CM: Did you make any good friends while being in the army?
LS: Yeah, I had, I had a good friend. But you know when I got out. He didn't live in the same part of the country that I lived in, and we just, you know, we lost contact its unfortunate but… very unfortunate. Know also blame myself on that because I never took the time to reconnect with any of these people, you know, just busy at home and it's more…(Internet issues)
CM: So when you finally were able to be home. Did you do anything for, I guess? Did you continue your reading hobby or did you delve into other hobbies?
LS: Oh, The time when I got out of the Army. I had, I was married, and I had a daughter was born December 30 and uh Walter Reed. So there was really not too much time to do anything. Just trying to survive at that point. And though we moved back and we live in a small apartment that too far from the folks area. It was nice. Then went out on my own and Got a degree in started to work for our first company I worked for was Dewy and Allyn chemical company in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
CM: Did you just freeze or are you still there. Up. You're moving again. Sorry you froze for that you mentioned you worked at Cambridge and then I couldn't the picture. Stop moving and sound stop going through.
LS: Yeah Well, it worked for the company called Dewy and Allyn chemical company. And they plastics were really was my forte. I really enjoyed. You know, trying to develop them and whatever.
CM: So have the Mets brought you back for any. Baseball games or have you been kind of off the baseball trail for a while. Hold on a second, it appears that a connections a bit unsecure. So let's, I'm just gonna wait for that to settle down, be a bit before I ask any more questions.
LS: Okay. I’m at your beck and call.
CM: Thank you very much. Let's see, it looks like it's starting to settle down….. Okay. So going back to the Mets. Have you guys been to a recent game or I guess in recent years games? Or have you guys really just been able to watch from a distance at this point?
LS: I'm sorry I didn't catch that?
CM: Uh, have you been to have you been back to watch the Mets? Like, have you been there in person at all? In recent years, or have it has it had to be more at a TV viewpoint at a radio?
LS: Five years ago was. We used to live in Bennington, Vermont. Right now I live in Saratoga Springs live in a 55 and over community.
CM: And how'd you end up in Saratoga Springs from Bennington, Vermont.
LS: Well, lived in Bennington Vermont first. And we used to come over to Saratoga Springs all the time. So we decided when I had the opportunity
CM: To move here.
LS: Now, I like Saratoga Springs. Yeah.
CM: Did you guys come for the horse racing or just for everything.
LS: No. Just, just because we like Saratoga Springs much better than Bennington, Vermont, but more things going on here. And then, my wife never liked Bennington, Vermont
CM: Would you say Bennington, Vermont. Was your least favorite place to live.
LS: I like Bennington, Vermont, and in fact I've, you know, I've lived in a many places. It's like anything else. And you can live in a big city or a small town, you can vegetate or be active and I enjoyed being active. I enjoy politics so.
CM: What so you were a big follower politics throughout the years?
LS: My what?
CM: I was asking you said that you were very big follower of politics throughout the years? Yes?
LS: Yeah, well I enjoy politics enjoy getting involved with the in Bennington and when I was in Saratoga Springs. I got involved with the politics in Saratoga Springs.
LS: It just makes life interesting
CM: Did you run for anything or was it just more support?
LS: Than I will. I'm sorry?
CM: Did you run for anything in Saratoga? Was it just more for support?
LS: No, I Was a Housing, Commissioner, at one point. Well, five years. I didn't get that much involved. I say, mainly in the background. Now, it was a housing commissioner about 5 years.
CM: Did you get into politics anywhere else, or was it just more Saratoga that you really were more involved with?
LS: It really was just Saratoga. Somewhat involved in Burlington, Vermont, but It was just a different atmosphere.
CM: Where you work in Bennington, Vermont. (Computer issues)
LS: When?
CM: When I'm sorry continue what you were saying before, I didn't realize you were still going.
LS: I'm sorry I didn't catch that.
CM: I didn't mean to interrupt you. I thought you. The screen froze again there for a second. So I thought you finished but uh what I asked. Afterwards, was Where did you work. When you were in Burlington, Vermont, or were you retired then.
LS: Oh, I worked in a hooskicfalls. Short for company called oh Mitsui. Which made the different types of chemicals and plastics.
CM: Did you know what the plastics were used for? Was it just general purpose?
LS: General purpose.
CM: Did you have a favorite company you worked for or were they all kind of just the same?
LS: You know that's a very interesting question. I enjoyed working for a company called Dewy and Allyn chemical company in Cambridge, Massachusetts. In fact, that's one of the first companies. I really enjoyed working for me to companies, otherwise I would not have worked there.
CM: Did you ever travel throughout the country, or did you mainly stay on the east coast.
LS: Oh no I travel, I used to go to Japan once a year business movement. Mitsui when I worked for them. Of course we had a plant in Osaka. So once a year I used to go to Japan is to go to Tokyo, Yokohama, and Osaka. It was nice.
CM: Did you ever take your family with you, or was it just you that went
LS: Yeah, I always took my wife with me.
CM: Did you have a fun time in Tokyo. I was asking, did she have a fun time in Japan.
LS: Yeah, I had a great time in Japan. Yeah, I love the people there. I was very involved with them. When I worked for a company called Mitsui. Mitsui was in Japan was in Osaka. So I used to go there once a year.
CM: Did you travel anywhere else around the world.. Sorry.
LS: What do you say born?
CM: Sorry?
LS: And it was nice going. Yeah, I used to take the wife with me, so she traveled almost everywhere that I went, you know, any, any business trip I went I took her.
CM: Did you travel and… What was that
LS: That really kept me out of trouble taking the wife.
CM: A. Is there anywhere else around the world that you traveled
LS: Any what
CM: I was asking, Did you travel anywhere else around the world. You mentioned Japan did you like go to England?
LS: Japan. I had, I had a client in Sweden used to go to Sweden once a year. Was in Belgium. And my son. When he was working. He was working for… he lived in Germany. Frankfurt, Germany, so I used to go visit him. Oh, my wife and I used to visit him. That's when we were able to travel.
CM: Did any of your kids decide to follow in your footsteps and get a chemical engineering degree.
LS: Yeah, my youngest son is a chemical engineer my oldest son is a industrial engineer. So they both went into engineering, and my one of my grandson's an engineer also worked for Lockheed Martin. I told I wish one of them became a doctor or something so we can have in the family. And work they all became engineers.
CM: So you mentioned that your kids live all around the world. One lives in Germany, you've mentioned where the. Do you know where the rest of your kids are currently stationed?
LS: My kids are now?
CM: Yeah.
LS: Yeah, my daughter, which is the oldest is in Michigan. My oldest son is in Littleton Mass and my youngest son is in North Carolina Greensboro, North Carolina. So all scattered also and they all did much better than I had so very happy about that.
CM: Do you have a funny story from when you were having to I guess. Take care of your kids or an event that really sticks out in your mind. From the time when you saw them grow up.
LS: Well, the only thing that sticks in my mind now. Is one we were watching my grandson, and in our apartment, and my son and I was there and he had a dirty diaper. So we go over Bennington together. My wife back to haven't cleaned him up. As my son said we took crap from no one Let's see.
CM: Did you do any volunteer work throughout your life or was it mainly just working at the chemical plant.
LS: Mainly chemical engineering
CM: Uh, this might be one that I don't know if you have ever been here. Have you ever gone to Disney World, or have your kids ever dragged you to it to it.
LS: Sorry?
CM: Sorry you froze. Again, I didn't realize you were still talking. Um, I asked.
CM: Did you kids ever drag you to like Disney World.
LS: We went to Disney World only once. When I took all the kids that was way back Way back. We enjoyed it. We rented a house out there and spent about a week on Disney.
CM: Did you ever enjoy going to see movies and stuff Like that.
LS: Ever what I'm sorry.
CM: Did you ever go to see movies through your life or some point or even like Broadway. Shows or just shows in general.
LS: Yeah, we used to go to some we go, Broadway, show. Unfortunately, we can always afford the top tier in a balcony. Never New York I assure, but we took in as many shows as we could.LS: My wife was a folk singer. So she works. She's worked with some group in New York City.
CM: Did you get to meet any famous people doing that?
LS: Famous people? Yeah, the only people I met was my wife. Both (laugh). Yeah, we met… can't think of his name….Earl, Ray James. Met him on a plane. Can’t think of his name, unfortunately.
CM: It happens. Uh, so you used to live in Brooklyn? Then when you got older, you got drafted, then you went. Back to sorry I'm forgetting the name. It is.
LS: Whose name.
CM: Does you're trying to member my make sure I'm making sure I'm keeping track of the places. What was not Waltz, it's a. Walter reed that was it. You went used to live in Walter reed and then you went t Cambridge and then Bennington?
LS: Yes.
CM: Okay, just making sure I'm keeping track of everywhere. You've gone in that timeframe. Did you ever take any road trips anywhere?
LS: Any road trips
CM: Yeah, like a long times in the car. Going from place to place.
LS: No, never. Whenever we whenever we travel, we either went by plane or by Bus, but never car.
CM: Did you ever have to.
LS: No that’s not true. No because we got married. We took a trip down to Florida by car I drove down there.
CM: Did you enjoy your time in Florida when you went
LS: Pardon
CM: I asked, how was your time in Florida?
LS: How much time in Florida?
CM: How was the trip to Florida?
LS: It was good. Those were the days when I can you know drive a car those distances wife also drove. We also had a camping trailer that I used to lug behind my car. So we did a lot of camping used to camp up in Canada. That was nice.
CM: Was Canada your favorite place to camp.
LS: Montreal we camped up there.
CM: Did you ever take your kids camping.
LS: You look frozen.
CM: I think You're right, I think it looks like our screen, stop being frozen. Did you ever take your kids camping?
LS: Well, yeah, we always took the kids, my daughter never liked it. But she wasn't we're not going to leave home. It was not an outdoors person. Boys loved it, of course.
CM: Did you ever have a running with wild animals well camping?
LS: Never have a what? Sorry.
CM: Did you ever run into like wild animals? When camping like deer or moose?
LS: No, I never saw any of those things.
CM: You ever go fishing while Camping
LS: No. I don't, I don't really fish. I went once with my son and equal fish those sunfish wanted to take it home for show and tell. Wouldn’t last anyway.
CM: Did you kids ever try and…..Continue saying. No, no, no, it our connection keeps freezing up so I you freeze up and I think you're done. So I tried to ask another question but continue what you were saying.
LS: I didn't catch it. I'm sorry.
CM: I was just saying it seems that our screens. Keep freezing. So I assumed you finished what you were saying. But continue what you were just saying a second ago.
LS: I'm finished
CM: Okay. I was going to ask, have your kids ever tried sneaking like something bizarre into the show and tell classes?
LS: Not really. Not really nothing bizarre. Everything was nice and calm when we went
CM: Did all your kids go the same school or did you send them different places.
LS: Now what? I'm sorry.
CM: It's okay. Did you send your kids to different schools or did they all start in the same place?
LS: Actually they wanted different schools, my daughter went was in Brooklyn, New York, she went to
No, no, she was in Walter Reed. So they all wanted different schools. I know that. What schools. I don't remember.
CM: That's perfectly fine. Uh, did you back in your high school years, get into any high school quote on quote shenanigans.
LS: And I want. I'm sorry.
CM: Did you ever get into any mischief and high school
LS: No, no.
CM: Okay.
LS: Went to Lafayette high school, Brooklyn graduated from there and went to ccny
CM: Okay, that should be about wrapping up our interview time
LS: Pardon?
CM: I was saying that that should be wrapping up our interview time it is 150 we started at a 1250 so it's it's been an hour. Thank you for talking with me.
LS: Okay.
CM: Do you have any questions or anything.
LS: No, I want to thank you
CM: Thank you so much for spending your time.
LS: very interesting. Yeah.
CM: Now. Okay. Uh, I'll stop the recording now. Let's make sure I can do that these tech things don't always go well.
Second Transcription of Lou Schneider
CM: Today is 11/18/2020. I am the interviewer CM and to view it in Luke Snyder, would you like to introduce yourself?
Lou Schneider: Pardon?
Cooper Murphy: Would you like to introduce yourself?
LS: I’m Lou Schneider.
CM: So, Lou. Are you find with this recording being used in our project at Skidmore, and possibly be accessed by the public domain.
LS: Of course.
CM: Okay, so let's get started. So you talked about how a you're in the Korean War for two years. Correct?
LS: Well, I was actually during the Korean War situation. I was stationed in Washington, DC. I worked for the Army prosthetics research lab where we did research and development on different type of materials for prosthesis, which was a very interesting job.
CM: So what would you say would be the timeframe from. When you first joined to when it finally ended.
LS: Well, I wanted 53 to 5519
CM: Okay, so can you kind of walk me through the experience from day getting drafted to basically what happened next to when you were allowed to go home.
LS: (clears throat) Well, I was drafted, but I was also married at the time. And because I guess because I was married and being a chemical engineer they station me and Washington DC, Walter Reed Army Medical hospital which I worked for the prosthetics Research Lab, which was good duty.
CM: Okay, so you got drafted, you got brought to the prosthetics research lab. And were you given any training and then sent over as well, or did you ever actually go to Korea?
LS: No, I had no training at all. You know, was I have a degree in chemical engineering. So they figured smart enough anyway.
CM: Sorry, just writing down some stuff. Okay, so you got you had the medical not the medical the chemical engineering degree and you're just flown over. Did you have you ever saw in combat, as you told me before. They never made you do like a boot camp or anything like that. Correct.
LS: Oh yeah, oh yeah, we had a go eight weeks of infantry training and then eight weeks of medical training. Was I was assigned to the Medical Corps.
CM: Okay, so when would you say you actually got to go over to be stationed in Korea was that between 54-55
LS: Pardon again.
CM: Sorry, what was the actual part where you got to go over to Korea was that between like 54 and 55 or was you
LS: 53 and 55
CM: You fine. OK. Cool, cool. How many patients would you say you saw a day over at a in Korea?
LS: You mean and Walter Reed work they're willing to read amputees. And research and development on different type of materials and now we're actually our test students as I would call them. We work with about eight different amputees that lost limbs that we're not the same, you know, arms, two legs. It was interesting work.
CM: Okay. That's your wrap up that little segment. So, uh, what's the war ended did you, uh, did you remember the experience of finding out when people discovered the double helix? Just curious?
LS: Not really, no.
CM: Yeah, I figured. I just want to see that for myself. I'm a bio major. Okay. So, Uh, sent after the Korean War ended. You were alive during you know the whole space race. Correct.
LS: Well, when the Korean War ended, and I got discharged from the army. I actually went back to school. And went back for my masters, but I never completed it. Married at the time had a kid, you know, it's very, very difficult. So how to actually find a job, which I did. I worked for a company called doing Dewy and Allyn chemical company as an engineer, in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
CM: Uh, yeah, I remember that actually from last time. So going quickly back to the space race and everything. Do you remember like all those events like Sputnik and everything like that, and if so, how did that make you feel during that time period?
LS: Sputnik?
CM: Yeah, when the Satellite went up
LS: Russia put the spacecraft. I really didn't think much about it at the time. Yeah, I figured that you know I’ve government knew what they were doing it. We're going to put up something also and I was not involved with it so didn't really care too much.
CM: What about when you heard about someone was able to go on the moon?
LS: That was interesting. I mean, that was the first to me to first have space travel to go to various places the various planets. It was exciting space is very exciting the space station was also very exciting.
CM: I bet, especially since I was the first of any of its kind.
LS: Yeah.
So after the space race. Do you remember anything as well of like when the Cold War was starting to become more of a thing? Like for instance Cuban Missile Crisis. How did that affect you at all during one that was?
LS: Not really. Not at all.
CM: Just curious. OK, so moving on from that you mentioned that you got married a what time again did you actually get married at
LS: Like what I'm what
CM: What year did you get married again.
LS: 1954
CM: Okay, and where did you say the wedding was
LS: Wedding was in Brooklyn, New York.
CM: Do you remember where you went for your honeymoon.
LS: Well, I was in the army at the time and I had a week off so we stopped off in Rahway, New Jersey. The first night was it was raining and then we ended up in Atlantic City. And then, of course, I had a week before I was had to go back to Walter Reed. In fact, my daughter was born in Walter Reed in 1954. The fact, December 30 1954
CM: Okay. So you mentioned before and unfortunately wasn't able to get this down to my notes. You said that your favorite place was either New port, a Walter Reed?
LS: Was what?
CM: You mentioned that you moved around a lot in your life, last time when we talked, and you mentioned that either your favorite place was Walter Reed or Newport, do you remember which one was
LS: Walter Reed. Fact, though I was stationed there for a year and a half, and the prosthetics Research Lab, which was to me very interesting work, you know, working with these amputees. They were our test specimens on the materials that we developed and we work with about eight amputees. They were fun group.
CM: Do you remember any of the uh I guess. Patients you had like anything specific about them. Besides, you know, I'm being amputees’.
LS: Well, there's one thing that always sticks out on my mind. We had a nurse that lost part of her nose. And she came in to be fitted for plastic nose, but we come back every week because there was a stain on the on the nose. She smoked so what we did is we gave her a dozen noses and said, go home and do what want. In fact, we had one amputate that lost his left arm, and he built his friend that he can swim beat him in one lap and no water in the pool at Walter Reed and we fitted him with a fin. So yeah, I'll tell you, we had a lot of fun. They were a fun group they didn't feel sorry for themselves. I said, this is it. And we'll do the best we can.
CM: So, if you don't mind? Actually, could you give me like a walkthrough figure daily I guess life back when used to live and watery?
LS: Well, I was married at the time. So we live off post and of course, I had a car so how do. (cough) Excuse me, actually I was assigned to Walter Reed, but I worked in a place called Forest Glen. That's where the prosthesis was. Every day we had a call for an inspection. At seven o'clock in the morning. That was about it. Was just a routine. My daughter was born and Walter Reed 1954 December 30
CM: And when you got home here. What do you normally do when you got back to your house?
LS: In Washington, DC.
CM: Yes.
LS: Was it. No, just nothing just stayed with the wife, and we went to various places. I love this Smithsonian Institute. So we used to go there pretty often but till being in the army. I think we got a stipend of 250- $280 a month and we had to make that thing last I remember that she's we saved up so we could buy, one egg roll.
CM: A fan of egg rolls? Are you a fan of egg rolls?
LS: Oh yeah, I like, first of all, I like Asian food.
CM: Can you remember where you tasted the best Asian food?
LS: Where, what I'm sorry.
CM: Can you remember where you test my bad, tasted the best Asian food.
LS: Best Asian foods that actually were testing best for when I used to go to Japan. It's not the same. It's, it's, it's different.
CM: Okay, so after working with amputees’ and everything you said you worked at a chemical plants. Correct?
LS: Of work where
CM: I'm sorry had you worked at multiple different chemical plants.
LS: Work for a company first company was Dewy and Allyn Chemical Company, which was in Cambridge, Massachusetts. And then I took a job than on Long Island and I worked for a company called Rubber Corporation of America, mainly in plastics. Plastics was my forte. That's what I've always studied
CM: Yeah. You mentioned that that's a quite a bit. And it's very interesting, too. But I want to ask, did you ever remember having to witness the implement of the stationary computers. Business computers into the workplace, like those giant machines on the wall that you plug in numbers to.
LS: Oh, no. In fact, the first time I work with computers is when I left the army. When I went to work for Rubber Cooperation of America. They gave me a computer take home so
CM: Cool. Did you like using a computer.
LS: Yeah. Haven't been without one since.
CM: Especially in this time I'm betting?
LS: My wife has the laptop, of course, but I use the one stationary here in my office at home.
CM: Yeah, I have a stationary too
LS: I like it
CM: Oh, let's see. So you mentioned. Actually, speaking of your wife and family and everything. You mentioned that you like to go camping, in Montreal. Correct?
LS: Yeah, we had a camping trailer had a 16 foot. Uh what was it called I can't think of the name, but we used to do a lot of camping up and down the East Coast spent time of Florida Hollywood, Florida. I remember that, But I enjoy camping up in Canada. In those days you had no problems getting through into Canada. Long time ago.
CM: Yeah. I've been to Canada. A couple times real nice up there, but I was gonna ask. Did you just like start camping out of a whim, or did you use to go camping before he had you got with your family and everything.
LS: Oh yeah, when I was growing up in Brooklyn, New York, I belong to the Boy Scouts. So we always camp. And I just continue doing that. I enjoyed it. But my daughter never did.
CM: So you were a boy scout when you're younger?
LS: pardon
CM: You were a boy scout when you were younger?
LS: Oh, yeah.
LS: Did a lot of things when I was younger. Some foolish some not
CM: You got any stories from the Boy Scouts or was it just kind of a normal experience as you would say
LS: Normal experience. You know, you read about what they what was going on with the abuse. We never had that in Brooklyn, New York.
CM: Be my guess. I'll pause the recording. (Time passes for the phone call) Yeah, sorry about that. That's new. I'm definitely gonna have to talk to my phone provider about that one.
LS: Interesting, though.
CM: I know. so, uh, speaking of what is there anything about your life that you'd like to share discuss just anything that you thought you wanted to share from last time that you didn't get to?
LS: I don’t know, growing up in Brooklyn, New York was an adventure because Coney Island was my stomping ground used to go there pretty often. And uh but that's really, that's about it. I enjoyed living in Brooklyn. My wife still has family there. So we go back occasionally, spent a lot of time in Coney Island. In fact, and Coney Island we were up on the subway, which is the L and we watch Luna Park burn when that the big fire.
CM; Oh, yeah, yeah.
LS: Then I think Trump put up his building or whatever.
CM: So when I'm not actually I don't have to remember the date that have Luna Park apart burned do you?
LS: What date.
CM: The date when a Luna Park burn.
LS: Don't even know how had to be in be in the early 50sif I am not mistaken.
CM: I'll look it up later I was just curious if you knew off the top of your head.
LS: No, I don't.
CM: That’s probably fine. Well, I guess we've reached the last question, unless you have anything else you want to say before then?
LS: That everything that
CM: So if you had to give advice to, I guess, the current generation, what would it be if you don't have any that's fine. Just curious what you?
CM: Great advice.
LS: Have a sense of humor.
CM: That is a good one….What do you think it's important to have a sense of humor?
LS: What if you if you what?
CM: Sorry, I was asking, why do you think it is important to have a sense of humor?
LS: Oh, You can't be serious soul, your life and the lifetime. You got to find humor in everything. I think that levels you offer keeps you know basic. You know, if you don't have a sense of humor. I mean, like to be very boring.
CM: Indeed, Okay. Actually, I did have one question. Did you ever go camping with your parents.
LS: My friends?
CM: Your friends or your parents?
LS: No. First of all, my father came from Lithuania and my mother from Poland, so of course they do that, you know, they were of the older generation. No, we went most camping I did was with friends. When I was in a boy scouts or, when we got older and I had a family. We have a 16 foot trailer camper that we used to use. I Love that daughters and never did. But I did that the boys did of course. So we used to camp all the way up. Used to go to Hollywood, Florida. We camped up in, as I said in Canada. Those were the days when you get into Canada pretty easily, which you can't anymore.
CM: Okay, well that's all the questions I had so unless there's anything again, you can think of that you want to add that would basically wrap it up.
LS: I can't think of anything at this point. I think you did a good job.
CM: Thank you. I hope my teacher thinks that too.
LS: I hope so.
CM: Okay, I'm gonna stop the recording. Now then.
Okay.
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Cooper Murphy, “Interview with Lou Schneider,” Skidmore Saratoga Memory Project, accessed March 14, 2025, https://ssmp.skidmore.edu/document/1197.
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